Horizon explores the existence of Zoos – Horizon: Should We Close Our Zoos? – BBC Two


I want to ultimately find out if zoos
need to change to serve animals and humans better or if they should be
consigned to history if you peel it all back and you look at say London Zoo in
1828 and all the others hoops throughout the
nineteenth century they all had big animals showy animals colorful animals
mainly from Africa or from Asia typical zoo today is got exactly the same
collections they have not moved on from there opened in 1928 Detroit Zoo kept
the same animals most other zoos did including elephants a star attraction
this place is taking a long hard look at the scientific evidence to determine
what animals it should keep and what it shouldn’t this used to be the indoor
enclosure for Detroit’s two Asian elephants now notice there is more room
for people as goodness then there is for elephants I didn’t want it so smart
about it but well how come there’s more room for the because zoos in the
beginning we’re thinking a little bit more about people than they were about
animals many captive elephants have major problems with their feet because
they’re not walking enough and they’re not walking in the right material it
turned out captive born female Asian elephants the majority of the zoo
population were living 19 years on average we looked to the nearest thing
which was timber camps in Burma we found that they were living to their Beck 40
so and at least double what we were seeing in zoos it really raised a
massive red flag that something is not right I think this generation of
elephants have suffered and you can see that in the scientific data we can see
it it’s it’s a shame shame on us but the next thing is what we’re going to do
about it and the next generation needs to be protected and we learn from the
past here
this is stereotypic behavior abnormal and repetitive with no obvious purpose
professor Mason investigated why animals display this behavior the species most
at risk was the polar bear which has the largest home range of all land mammals
sometimes over 250,000 square kilometers she challenged zoos to fundamentally
improve the way they keep wide-ranging carnivores or phase them out that really
put the cat amongst the pigeons at over 1.6 acres this enclosure is more than
eight times the size of the old one this enclosure cost around 16 million dollars
to design and build at that kind of price trying to meet the welfare needs
of animals like polar bears forces zoos to make hard choices you can’t do every
animal you can’t have a postage stamp collection and expect to be able to have
all the animals thrive if the wild is beautiful and like it was when I went
first to Africa that’s where all chimp should be and quite honestly when you go
to a really good zoo which has a big outside enclosure then you think well I
Cleve I was a chimp I probably rather be here than out in all these dangerous
situations in the world zoos are saying that saving animals is their fundamental
role around 400 pandas have been bred in captivity this project is succeeding in
breeding animals but struggling to build a self-sustaining population in the wild
just five have been released and only three survived all things considered a
huge amount of money has been spent on the captive breeding program for pandas
and considering so few although precious individuals have been reintroduced it
has it been worth it is it is it worth it ah I mean we’ve learned a lot and and
should we continue them right now I’m feeling no
there are a lot of people today who say that zoos should shut down what do you
think I think those arguments of zoos being part of the problem and using
animals and having massive welfare issues and not educating the public and
not doing conservation was was true in the 40s 50s 60s and shame on us probably
in the 70s and early 80s as well but genuinely the last 10 or 15 years the
world’s changed and a lot of zoos have woken up to that and a lot of zoos are
run now by people like me who passionately understand this understand
the arguments and we’re trying to make a difference

42 Comments

  1. Dr Roald April 25, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    First

  2. Blue Origins April 25, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    동물원에 대해 나만 이렇게 생각하고 있던 게 아니라는거 그게 너무 감사하고 문제는 우리가 이 동물원을 어떻게 발전시키고 더 윤리적으로 나아가야 할지 생각해야죈다ㅠㅠ
    I think the zoo will be suet down? So early question!! We must go on the right direction, ethnicity the animals don't suffer from human being

  3. BRG 0001 April 25, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Zoos have improved massively over the last few decades, especially in the developed world, and they will continue to improve.

    Zoos can also play a huge role in protecting species, animals like elephants, rhinos, tigers, pandas, etc are facing serious trouble in the wild whether by poaching or environmental issues. Zoos offer a safe haven and a significant breeding population (zoos across the world), As such I would say that zoos are vital if you want these species to continuing to exist. Unless you would rather rely on the countries with wild populations to deal with protecting them, which after recent news from South Africa………I wouldnt bet on it.

  4. a cassiopéa April 25, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    Acho que a admiração e a vontade de estar perto desses animais sempre vão existir e nem todo mundo quer e pode ir até o hábitat natural desses animais para vê-los, principalmente as crianças. Então, o certo seria ampliar e adequar os espaços dos zoológicos para que se torne algo o mais parecido possível com a vida selvagem. Por outro lado, eu sou totalmente contra às apresentações de circo ou de parques temáticos com animais selvagens!

  5. orangelephantses April 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    animals that don't thrive in captivity shouldn't be in captivity! im sure some animals can do quite well in zoos but some species just will never be happy :/ :/
    it makes me so sad to see animals like elephants and primates suffering :/

  6. Julian Smith April 25, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    Can you do our day out on Tuesday may 3rd on bbc four please

  7. stephen mallinson April 25, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    Unfortunately because humans have had such a negative effect on many types of animals zoos and breeding programme could be somes only chance Those who say they should be allowed to die out Its nature er no it's not The only people who want rare animals extinct are the ones with ivory or stuffed animals and want the value of them up

  8. The Pirate bob April 25, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    Cool

  9. NoHandBeyond April 25, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    BBC=BigBlackCock !!!!!!

  10. iamdmc April 25, 2016 at 8:03 pm

    The music is terribly distracting – lacks cohesion with the video content. Get rid of it. Or choose one melody and stick with it.
    Your right-side pop-up text is also unnecessarily large, and obtrusive.
    Who's doing your editing for god's sake?

  11. Chickenug April 25, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    I've been to the Detroit zoo, and you failed to show the massive area that is for the elephant's. their outdoor enclosure is several acres in size, but you didn't show it because it would disprove your point. fucking stupid.

  12. rahul goel April 25, 2016 at 8:17 pm

    i hope zoos now focus more on species which really havent got much coverage like frogs etc… obviously because tigers are more exciting to look at but those species also need urgent protection…they could educate the public more about them and continue their great conservation efforts

  13. Tanya Wang April 25, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    PANDA!!!

  14. Nicky D April 26, 2016 at 7:40 am

    hell no not gonna even happen zoo's are fine enough of the bullshit second most of the animals that zoo's have are a good thing because most of these animals aren't even in the wild anymore

  15. xDTCTheLegend April 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Zoos are really trying to help. but they are instead making it harder for some of these animals. I personally think having wild animals in captivity is horrid unless we are helping them breed or heal after such work is done they must be returned to the wild. You don't nurture a bird to health and put in a cage, it flys off.

  16. Animals are Perfect April 27, 2016 at 8:34 am

    Zoos should not be allowed to operate, that's not free for the animals , it's very simple, stop destroying wild animals lives, environments , stop capturing them , stop encroaching on their territories stop moving into their territories , every country needs to ban zoos , every country need to protect and enforce their protection of wild life land and the animals to the fullest , there is no good reason to kill lions, tigers, bears ,any of Africa's wild animals , I have no problem humans killing deer elk for food they have a surplus population but hunting for lions, tigers, bears , hippos, elephants should be banned forever , I hear this excuse we need to control wild animal population, no we don't, that's not our right , we don't get to do that, that's very wrong , lions are under 30k for its total population same with other Africa wild animals , rhino hunting need to be banned, no excuse is good enough to capture or kill wild animals.

  17. TestedModz April 27, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    Zoos are no longer needed since if you want to see an animal you can just type in in youtube… In the past when internet and tv was not invented fair enough. Anyone who supports/go to a zoo has none of my respect and i hope they die a painful death.

  18. Courtney Loftus May 1, 2016 at 6:02 am

    Does anyone know how I can watch this program from the U.S.? Thank you!

  19. Jason Colon June 2, 2016 at 3:46 am

    for the people who suggest, you don't need a zoo just watch a video on youtube. I would like to suggest instead of reproducing, watch porn and pretend your making a baby.

  20. Vsauce69 February 17, 2017 at 12:56 am

    "A child can tell u more about a dinosaur than an elephant, you don't need to put animals in prisons to learn about them"

  21. Jonathan Moss April 25, 2017 at 9:14 am

    You should proof-read the video for apostrophes.

  22. jackie ndiweni May 11, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    You could never shut down because people don't have enough money to go Africa to see a lion or cheetahs

  23. Frida May 23, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    I am beyond digusted that this is even a question.
    The vast majority of people who are against, or "icky" with zoos, eat meat, dairy and eggs, and own pets. They don't think twice about that. Yet it's ZOOS that need "revision"?
    Zoos are correcting themselves, all the time. Zoos are the one and ONLY form of animal keeping that is for the animals. Food industry, clothing industry, pets – that's all selfish. Zoos were originally just for amusement, to show off strange creatures from a vast and unknown world.

    Today, they are for education, touching people's minds about animals they are never going to meet otherwise (and no, reading about it in a book or seeing a film is NOTHING like getting up close and personal with a real, living, breathing animal), and saving them from extinction, in a world that is more and more dangerous for animals, everywhere. And that is OUR fault. So it's on US to fix it.

    To close zoos, would be an absolute disaster for animals. One, it would disconnect people from animals even further. Two, it would cease any research that we can do on animals in zoological settings, to help their wild relatives. And three, it would cease all and any breeding of endangered species – MANY OF WHOM ARE ONLY ALIVE TODAY BECAUSE OF CAPTIVE BREEDING PROGRAMS.

  24. ohmusicsweetmusic May 25, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    "I'm Feeling"?? If we are going to rely on our "feelings" we are probably going to make the wrong decision. What does the science say about zoos? Are the animals content and well taken care of? Our "feelings" should have nothing to do with it.

  25. Karen Lamb July 9, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    leave animals in the wild. Stop visiting zoo's!

  26. SteveTriangle July 11, 2017 at 4:25 am

    If all zoos were shut down, there we be a massive problem.

  27. Proclivities October 5, 2017 at 8:58 am

    Sure, zoos have improved. But that doesn't make them any less unnecessary. And stupid. Maybe as a naive kid they seem cool.

  28. Kate Harper October 26, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    This why i hate zoos!

  29. Jorah Schwemler May 11, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    This helped me so much! Thank You!!

  30. gin idontthinkso July 30, 2018 at 4:27 am

    Keep good zoos that care for the animals and close shitty ones

  31. Ed Regis August 1, 2018 at 7:23 am

    We probably don't need to spend so much money on giant pandas anymore as according to the IUCN they've been taken off the endangered species list and are now officially classed as 'Vulnerable'. But there are still many other species that need our help. Particularly birds and reptiles, which don't seem to garner as much attention as mammals.

  32. Billy Bob August 6, 2018 at 5:37 am

    Ending the panda program because someone's feelings got hurt isn't wise. For as few as there are in the wild they could easily go extinct. Stop making decisions based on emotion and learn how to think like an adult.

  33. Assia EB November 11, 2018 at 1:18 am

    zoos shouldn't exist

  34. Tammy Hunter January 4, 2019 at 4:00 am

    I don't think zos should exists let alone have these wildlife animals taken out of their habitat.

  35. Dylan Waynick January 8, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    zoos are basically an alcatraz for animals

  36. Hamzah Hussain January 11, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    ye ban it

  37. Allways January 31, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    Zoos shouldnt exist anymore anyone can watch a video now to see them in ther natural habit only thing that should exist should be rehabs for animals abuse by humans

  38. sTuu March 23, 2019 at 7:28 pm

    to the answer given to the question at 4.30 in the video, i say visit twycross zoo ull realise that is still not the case even in 2019

  39. Lpsfudge and MlpTV March 31, 2019 at 6:27 pm

    All i know is that if i was an animal i would rather be free and live for a few days then live an entire lifetime in a small cage thats like sitting in youre room for you're whole life we should focus more on sanctuarys and protecting the animals in the wild from poachers

  40. MrTNTitans32 April 3, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    Nashville zoo puts a chain link fence around a 8’x8’ square with a few trees and calls it a enclosure. It’s sad

  41. 24SparrowJack May 2, 2019 at 5:52 am

    No zoos are the best chance endangered animals have of surviving

  42. Airik Barajas May 10, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    baby panda

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